Just the last race Massa flew past. We have a clear philosophy of providing superior customer service, whereby we customize designs specifically to suit … He had the best car but squandered his chances with shambolic drives in such races as silverstone, where he could barely keep his car pointing straight and was lapped by the eventual championship winner, and Spa, where he was nowhere to be seen as he trundled around way off the pace, only to be gifted points by race stewards, who also deducted points off his closest title rival. In that situation you cannot think about the championship. I guess we should say thank you for an extraordinary exchange with Glock. In my opinion, Singapore GP should be excluded from the 2008 championship. November 6, 2018 with 0 Comments. Sports News: Kimi Raikkonen has been named Formula One's biggest earner, pocketing (£27.35 million) nearly three times as much as the next best-paid driver. In November, the CRB ruled that Glock was free to race for … Glock had been on course to finish fourth going into the final lap and dropped to sixth when passed by Sebastian Vettel and Hamilton. Monaco, Monza or Brazil that same year for example. Glock has won twice in the DTM since leaving F1Asked if he would have approached the race differently given the outcome, Glock said he would not have made the change to intermediate tyres, “because we gained two positions with that strategy call”. 77 votes, 30 comments. Bafflingly, the circumstances under which Lewis Hamilton won his first world championship in 2008 remains a point of dispute for some. Yes (@come-on-kubica) 12th November 2015, 13:36. "I was just driving my line where it was safest with dry tyres and, if Lewis had not overtaken me in that corner, he would have overtaken me on the following straight because there was no way I could go flat out on the dry tyres. So if we are talking about “what could have been” then Hamilton won that race. 2008 Belgian Grand Prix, the FIA takes Hamilton’s rightful win away and gifts it to Massa. I don't think I decided the championship. Come on guy’s. 2005-ben a Champ Car-ban, 2006-2007-ben a GP2-ben versenyzett.Utóbbi szezonban a sorozat bajnoka lett. I was watching and rooting for Lewis on that race, but man was he nervous. "I had the car in fourth gear to minimise the wheel spin and was just concentrating on bringing it home. its the same argument with the debate about track limits we have today, putting 4 wheels outside of the white lines on the exit of a corner may not get you ahead of a car infront but if it allows you go get closer than had you stayed inside the white lines then you gained an advantage! Don’t want to go back.”. Aston Martin … "I had to stay off the racing line because there was so much tyre rubber on it, which becomes incredibly slippery in the wet. I get the impression that the only people who believed in this conspiracy were fans who wanted to see Massa win the title. I didn’t say he was pathetic all year. "I actually told the team on the radio that I wanted to come into the pits to change on to wet tyres but they answered that the pits were blocked and there was no chance to get in," he said. Sam Andrew (@sama) 11th November 2015, 22:38. There are facts regarding the last lap of the 2008 Brazilian GP, that some just choose to amazingly ignore. Symptomatic of a season where Ferrari were being helped out by FIA at every opportunity. Both seemed to have had the exact times, because of changeable conditions, should answer any questions why Glock lost so much time to Lewis on the last lap. And Toyota had no reason to help anyone or some close relationship with Mclaren. 0810-0022 The Toyota pit crew practices a pit stop with Timo Glock - 2008, Formula 1, Hockenheim, Germany, Topshot, Glock, Timo, Toyota, Pits. If massa was that bad in 08 then Hamilton must have been just as bad. yeah, saying Crashgate lost Massa the title, when he was hardly faultless there himself (could have happened for any other SC), is about on the same level as saying that Massa was clearly the most deserving champion that year. Glock is racing driver currently racing in the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters. So Kimi was merely paying back. Pathetic performances in Monza and Fuji added to that. Join F1 Poule. Far greater than the first race obviously, and that is one of the bigger tests as far as I’m concerned. Much has been written about Timo Glock and the part he played in deciding the destiny of the 2008 drivers’ crown, but how did the final lap - when he was passed, crucially, by eventual championship Lewis Hamilton - look from his perspective? Timo Glock Full Scale Helmets. After it’s over, there are so many races you can point to where either driver could have easily made up the deficit there was at the end of the season and usually there’s a case for the other driver as well. I wouldn’t call Monza a ‘pathetic’ performance & Silverstone was more down to Ferrari going the wrong way on setup expecting the track to dry, Kimi had just as bad a race & spun just as many times as Felipe did. ", Glock, 26, who has just finished his rookie season, answered his critics by pointing out: "It was only the last lap where we lost the time.". f199player (@f199player) 11th November 2015, 22:10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yifQ2sqNKR4, Egorov (@egorov) 12th November 2015, 8:34, @todfod: But didn’t the stewards know Hamilton was the “king-of-late braking”, Patrickl (@patrickl) 12th November 2015, 8:49. Timo Glock has rubbished conspiracy theories suggesting that he deliberately handed the world championship to Lewis Hamilton. Find the perfect timo glock stock photo. As it worked out, pitting would have made no sense because we would have lost even more time.". Latest News. Or did you notice that just about every race some of drivers lock up a wheel for the first corner? Timo Glock; Timo Glock Kanadan GP:ssä kaudella 2011. He started 6th and finished 6th. As somebody (GTRacer?) All comments are moderated. Ecclestone wanted. When he crossed the line, it looked like … I especially enjoy that people think one race can lose someone the championship. He started his single-seater racing career in 2000 and quickly rewarded by winning the ADAC Junior Cup (2000) and the ADAC BMW Championship (2001). Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Image of competition, glock, number - 7083368 Image of competition, glock, number - 7083368 Stock Photos Toyota Formula One driver Timo Glock from Germany crashes with his car during the German Grand Prix at the Hockenheim Formula One racetrack, Germany, Sunday, July 20, 2008. Lewis did what most drivers never even actually do unless told to by either their team and/or charlie mid-race, and that was immediately give the place back. Massa certainly didn’t deserve to win that day. No, Massa was not the best driver. Patrickl (@patrickl) 12th November 2015, 8:52. , THEN…. Glock driving for Toyota F1 at the 2008 Canadian Grand Prix. The 2008 championship was contested over 18 races and a lot of them had a profound impact on the championship. In 2008, Interlagos was the season finale and hosted a title decider between McLaren's Lewis Hamilton and Ferrari's Felipe Massa. Promoted content from around the web | Become a RaceFans Supporter to hide this ad and others, bosyber (@bosyber) 11th November 2015, 22:04. George (@george) 12th November 2015, 18:08. A Formula One racer before he joined GP2, Glock would compete in two seasons of GP2 en-route to his title, before returning to F1 in 2008.. Glock made his GP2 debut at the start of the 2006 season, joining BCN Competición at the start of the … The largest catalog of Timo Glock replica helmets is for sale at the best prices. He was in those races. He had to come in because his fuel was gone while they knew the weather would change in a few laps again. Still one of the most frustrating things about the 2008 season. Hamilton and Glock weren’t best friends or had the same nationality. He was obviously quicker than his position demanded, he was playing too safe, and when he got passed by Vettel on a great passing move, I was thinking it was all over- and he had only himself to blame there. Todfod (@todfod) 12th November 2015, 8:17. Glock didn’t have some grunge against Massa. 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, Jarno Trulli vs Timo Glock 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, Jarno Trulli vs Timo Glock (click to enlarge) This graph shows the lap times for the Toyota duo of Timo Glock and Jarno Trulli, the only two drivers in the field to stay on dry weather tyres at the end of the race. yes he let kimi past but he didn’t give back the time he gained and this allowed him to be much closer to kimi than he otherwise would have been and this helped him get past at the next corner. “If your [sic] Timo Glock you must really hate when the Brazilian Grand Prix comes around where people remind him of the 2008 race,” suggested one Tweeter. If Renault don’t crash in Singapore massa wins that race easily and wins the championship. look at this video and how badly damaged the tyre was. Usually such theories come up when people see some motive for something more sinister. To be honest I am fed up with people saying Glock let Hamilton win his first title. Simply cannot understand whats the point of all these “IF…. They included Massa – who was leading – and Hamilton. That looked seriously dangerous too, because all the others guys were braking well on time. The 2008 Formula 1 season was most definitely a rollercoaster campaign for Ferrari. Unbelievable. @bosyber I think it’s great, it’s exactly what social media was made for. 11th November 2015, 21:5511th November 2015, 21:56 | Written by Keith Collantine. Manox (@marussi) 12th November 2015, 4:32. feels wierd that my question if he wanted to return is on fanatic, in a good way :) but i wish that people would let this conspiracy die and stop asking him if he let hamilton thru. There really is nothing to find there that you could make an excuse about. Toyota had left Timo Glock and Jarno Trulli out on the dry tyre, banking on the rain staying light enough for them to go to the finish without the time lost in a pit-stop. Hungary Grand Prix Photogallery. Glock's action gave Hamilton the fifth place the Briton needed to clinch the title on the final lap of the Brazilian grand prix on Sunday but said he could not keep his grip after being unable to change to wet tyres. Glock comes over as a good guy who’s happy with where he is, not just here but also on the occasions where he enriched (to my mind) the RTL.DE F1 show – great to see. ", As for the championship outcome, Glock added: "It was decided at the last corner of the last lap and that's racing. His last season in F1 was … But the German told BBC Radio 5 Live … … "I had no chance to resist the guys on wet tyres because they were just so much quicker," he explained. Hamilton was better overall than Massa, but he too had many incidents and made a lot of mistakes. Read more Timo Glock News » Current Drivers. He now races for BMW in the DTM. One place up and Massa would have been world champion. Such a shame, What Briatore pulled out in Singapour denied Massa his world title, not Glock in Brazil…, Ed Marques (@edmarques) 11th November 2015, 23:39. Not only that, but Raikonnen even later crashed himself out of the race, rendering the entire fiasco pointless. Both Lewis & Felipe had a lot of screw ups that year. i dont see where Toyota would benefit from making lewis champ? Luckily Glock’s tyres were struggling for grip on the last few fast corners and they could get by, but if Hamilton lost the title there, it would have been by his fault alone. Timo Glock is a German motor racing driver, currently driving in Formula One for theMarussia F1 team. I was driving my own race and I wasn't looking out for Lewis or anybody else. File:Timo Glock 2008 Canada.jpg. Hamilton was unfortunate with the weather change. Never a penalty. He was on dry tyres on a track that was getting wetter, His tyres were losing temperature as a result & on that final lap he was clearly struggling for grip as the OnBoard shot from his car on the end of year DVD showed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4LMm5PXVRU, “thus denying a world title to Felipe who deserved it, because that year he was undoubtedly the best driver.”. He already spun off in the first two races which were dry. The 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix (formally the Formula 1 Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2008) was a Formula One motor race held on 2 November 2008 at the Autódromo José Carlos Pace, Interlagos, in São Paulo, Brazil.It was the eighteenth and final race of the 2008 Formula One season.The 71-lap race was won by Ferrari driver Felipe Massa after starting from pole position; this was the last of Massa's 11 wins. @edmarques, Hamilton would have even won that race. Something people ignore about Fuji is that Lewis’s race was ruined & he would have needed to pit on lap 2 even without the contact with Massa (Which was Massa’s fault) because he had flat-spotted his right/front tyre beyond the grooves at turn 1 & there’s no way he’d have been able to safely carry on for long with the tyre as badly damaged as it was. It’s sad so many people have one ‘definitive’ race when it comes to 2008, since it’s kind of revisionist to say something like that. We join the slick-shod German for a precarious tour of Interlagos in the wet… He made an F1 debut in 2004 with Jordan and then returned in 2008, spending the next five seasons in the championship with Toyota, Virgin Racing and Marussia. An FIA spokeman said that the governing body had no reason to believe that anything untoward took place in one of the most dramatic pieces of sporting theatre ever witnessed. I’m a Ferrari fan and was even more so in 2008, but all this ‘Glock lost Massa the championship’, ‘Massa lost it at Silverstone’, talk is so rigid and definitive, you’d imagine the 2008 was composed of 18 individual skirmishes or something.. The best independent Formula 1 community anywhere. ADD (@addimaf1) 12th November 2015, 20:45. StefMeister (@stefmeister) 11th November 2015, 22:23. And he threw it off in Malaysia. Massa spun there as he just got slightly wide out of the previous corner & that put him onto the dirty part of the track for the 2nd part where he lost grip & spun. Timo Glock (Lindenfels, NSZK, 1982. március 18. As the track began to dampen from laps 65-69 Glock’s lap times jumped into the high 1’18s while Trulli lapped in the 1’20s. Glock participated in Formula 1 between 2004 and 2012, starting 91 races and earning three podiums. In Britain comments included: "Glock stopped for Hamilton because they are buddies from GP2. 1 Pictures. Contents. Instead they wasted their time and money on the dog of the car that was the 2009 car. It was a difficult start yes. Patrickl (@patrickl) 12th November 2015, 8:54. A big jump and crash for Timo Glock, Australia 2008 Here you see how Timo GLock takes a huge jump at the track of Australia and break the wheels of his Toyota because of the. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) 11th November 2015, 22:05. Let me answer that for you – None, other than Lewis. Monza was ridiculous of him. 0810-0024 Timo Glock practices a pit stop with the Toyota pit crew - 2008, Formula 1, Hockenheim, … Don’t mention Spa! Glock needs to be banned from FIA sanctioned events for life. Yet Massa is still there, blocking young racing drivers to show their potential.. Timo Glock (born 18 March 1982 in Lindenfels) is a German motor racing driver. https://vid.me/PVo5. ONE point is just very painful, because this point could always be found easily by Ferrari or Massa. Hamilton clinched the title in a dramatic climax to the final race of the year when he passed Timo Glock on the final lap of the Brazilian Grand Prix that year. powersteer (@powersteer) 12th November 2015, 3:30. His following season proved me right. Glock on the last lap was caught out on the wrong tires, because of rain, while Hamilton under those conditions was on the right intermediate tires. Its also fair to say that Lewis had just as many bad performances that year, Running into the back of Alonso at Bahrain after a bad start, The Montreal pit crash, Another bad start at the French Gp & then cutting the corner & getting a penalty as he tried to come back through the field, Awful qualifying at Monza & the mistake at turn 1 in Fuji. It was good for ‘The Show’… a Hollywood scripted season finale race just like Messr. Strange what happened, hey? Your email address will not be published. 1.1.1 In the GP2 Series (2006–2007) 1.1.2 Toyota (2008–2009) 1.1.2.1 2008; 1.1.2.2 2009; 1.1.3 Virgin (2010–2011 ) 1.1.3.1 2010; 1.1.3.2 2011; 1.1.4 Marussia (2012) 1.1.5 DTM (2013–present) 1.1.5.1 2013; 1.1.5.2 2014; 1.1.5.3 2016; 2 Teams; Pictures . Kubica only look good after Canada because Raikkonen and Hamilton were out and he won. Timo Glock insists he did not hand the Formula One world title to Lewis Hamilton after the Briton dramatically overtook him on the last lap in Brazil. Timo Glock, Self: Formula 1. Massa did the same for Kimi in 2007. Was the same in 2007 when Hamilton lost by a point. See the Comment Policy and FAQ for more.If the person you're replying to is a registered user you can notify them of your reply using '@username'. 2004-ben Giorgio Pantano Jordan-nel való vitája miatt négy futamon lehetőséget kapott a bizonyításra a Formula–1-ben. It was given under Ferrari and Moseley pressure. Sure is and i dont use twitter that often. Felipe Massa defied expectations to dominate under pressure in wet conditions win ahead of Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen, giving himself a great chance of winning the title. Did he get a Penalty? While Ferrari comfortably won the Constructors’ Championship, the story was not the same with the Drivers’ title. Toyota's Timo Glock steers his car ahead of Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen at Hungarian F1 Grand Prix at Budapest on August 3, 2008. Look at Raikkonen that weekend at Monza he could only get to 9th & the week before in Spa as soon as it began to rain Kimi went from leading fairly comfortably in the dry to been under serious pressure from Lewis & eventually in the wall & As I said both Ferrari’s spun 4 times in the wet at Silverstone. Spinning alone in Malasya and Siverstone lose him the title. In 2008 Massa was good but certainly not the best. He wasn’t even the best Ferrari driver. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Same can be said for Raikkonen who had just as bad a race at Felipe did as both spun 4 times because Ferrari had gone the wrong way on setup with both cars & got caught out by the wetter than expected conditions. I think its pretty clear that Glock didn’t let Lewis past to gift him the championship or anything. At the 2004 Canadian Grand Prix, Glock replaced Giorgio Pantano at Jordan.Glock joined the small group of drivers who have scored a World Championship point in their first Formula One race. Continuing his great form in 2008, Hamilton rode victories in five races to clinch the drivers’ championship. It was a racing situation.". I know this was a typo, but 2009 was his best season up to his crash, in my opinion. I just hated those image of Nicole Sherzinger in the garage. When you start lower down in a fast car its always easier to make up more places against the cars of much lower performance than your own than when your already towards the front with cars of fairly equal performance in the conditions. How do they do when the pressure is that huge. News, stories and discussion from … Can the history be changed? Required fields are marked *. Your email address will not be published. Timo Glock was born on March 18, 1982 in Lindenfels, Hesse, West Germany. Lewis Hamilton leads Timo Glock during the Brazilian grand prix. Other then that one of the finer moments in F1. Timo Glock (born 18 March 1982) is a German motor racing driver, who previously drove in Formula One for the Jordan, Toyota, Virgin Racing and Marussia F1 teams. Timo Glock is a German professional racing driver who has primarily competed in the Formula One World Championship (2004, 2008-2012) and the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters (2013-Present). Mon 3 Nov 2008 19.01 EST. He pushed 2 cars off the circuit because of that dive bomb. Yeah cos Hamilton didn’t deliver any pathetic performances in 08. I recall that Glock was around 4 seconds quicker on that final lap than Trulli which is proof enough for me. Between two stints in Formula 1, Glock won the GP2 Series title in 2007. To take Hamiltons points away was a hideous decision which few people have ever agree’d with. But here there really is nothing. It’s just a shame that BMW stopped developing their car in the middle of the year, because I felt Kubica was superb all season long in 2008. Todfod (@todfod) 12th November 2015, 14:30. I was too busy trying to keep my car on the track. Some continue to allege Glock intentionally helped Hamilton, despite there being a clear reason why he was overtaken and the absence of any obvious motive for why he should assist his rival in his fight with Felipe Massa. © 2021 Collantine Media Ltd | About RaceFans. German Glock finished 10th in the 2008 drivers' championship. The Toyota drivers did not, moving Glock up the order, and though he lost two positions on the final lap he still finished higher than he had been running before the rain. He still Has me as a fan and i wish him The best im dtm. 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Test your F1 knowledge in our FREE 2021 F1 Poule and see who knows best! That pass was critical, giving Hamilton the fifth-placed finish he needed to become the youngest ever world champion in the final race of the season. No need to register, buy now! “I am very happy where I am now,” he said on Twitter when asked if he wanted to return to F1. I should have been more specific in my first line, I think it’s strange that so many people think the 2008 championship was won or lost over one race. FM was flawless when it counted most. Massa got bonus points at Spa, but also at China when Raikkonen let him past – Massa was so slow, Raikkonen had to virtually pull over and put the hazard lights on for him to get past. But in reality it was decided by the points Lewis and Felipe scored over 18 races. Often untouchable even to his team mate when Ferrari was superior car and he was starting from pole. If Lewis had given back all of the advantage he gained from cutting the chicane he wouldn’t have got the penalty. “Not at all,” Glock replied, “because I didn’t do anything wrong I drove my race and scored points for my team with different strategy.”. Manox (@marussi) 12th November 2015, 6:34, Also The Singapore gp. It was ridiculous driving. Hungary and Singapore, Hamilton gained points from massas falling back and retirement Massa lost them, he lost 10 whole points in Hungary, massa was better in 2008, Ed Marques (@edmarques) 11th November 2015, 23:38. Usually, when it comes down to the final race like this, there are many points lost by a driver over the season which could have all made an impact. Good luck trying to actually quantify ‘all of the advantage’ when they went into the corner side by side, in the middle of heated battle. … That twitter thread where he responds is pretty good fun too for the way he handles it. One read: "Question: who are Hamilton's friends in the paddock? He then finished 3rd in the 2002 German Formula 3 Championship and … Mangy Black Sheep (@mangyblacksheep) 12th November 2015, 14:38. But that would change the outcome of the WDC significantly, so I understand FIA’s decision on this case. The Toyotas of Glock and Jarno Trulli were the only point-scoring cars to remain on dry tyres as light rain started to fall. So Hamilton had to make 2 stops. And Massa was helped by quite a few dodgy FIA desicions too.
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